Thread: [Devil-Linux-discuss] No more new releases

Unfortunately, after almost 20 years, I have to officially stop  
releasing new versions of Devil-Linux. I simply do not have the time  
anymore to do this properly. This is in addition to GRSecurity not  
being available anymore to the general public, which was the core of  
our security features. It has been a blast maintaining this distro and  
we had a lot of long-term followers, for which I am very grateful.
All current downloads and the sources will of course stay on the websites.
If anybody wants to pick up where I left off, please feel free to  
reach out so that we can transfer all the responsibilities.
--

Regards
  Heiko Zuerker
 

Heiko,

Thank you for all of your hard work over the years!!!

I guess it's true that all good things must come to and end.

On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 6:24 AM, Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...> wrote:

> Unfortunately, after almost 20 years, I have to officially stop releasing
> new versions of Devil-Linux. I simply do not have the time anymore to do
> this properly. This is in addition to GRSecurity not being available
> anymore to the general public, which was the core of our security features.
> It has been a blast maintaining this distro and we had a lot of long-term
> followers, for which I am very grateful.
> All current downloads and the sources will of course stay on the websites.
> If anybody wants to pick up where I left off, please feel free to reach
> out so that we can transfer all the responsibilities.
>
> --
>
> Regards
>   Heiko Zuerker
>
>

Bruce,

Yes it was no easy decision, but I finally just had to admit it to myself.

Many thanks to you too. Without your help DL would never have gotten this
far.

On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Bruce Smith <bw...@re...> wrote:

> Heiko,
>
> Thank you for all of your hard work over the years!!!
>
> I guess it's true that all good things must come to and end.
>
> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 6:24 AM, Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...> wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, after almost 20 years, I have to officially stop releasing
>> new versions of Devil-Linux. I simply do not have the time anymore to do
>> this properly. This is in addition to GRSecurity not being available
>> anymore to the general public, which was the core of our security features.
>> It has been a blast maintaining this distro and we had a lot of long-term
>> followers, for which I am very grateful.
>> All current downloads and the sources will of course stay on the websites.
>> If anybody wants to pick up where I left off, please feel free to reach
>> out so that we can transfer all the responsibilities.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards
>>   Heiko Zuerker
>>
>>
>
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-- 

Regards
  Heiko Zuerker

Hi Heiko,

first of all many many Thanks for all your effort and support !

It's really sad to hear that you have to stop to maintain DL, which we run
since more than 15 years now on our fw and vpn.
I hate the idea of having to change our setup, it was one of our most
reliable and easy to run systems over all these years :-(
However, times move on and I fully understand that at some point time gets
an issue.

It seems that we'll have to start looking for an alternative.
Until now I didn't even bother about alternatives, since there was simply
no need for such, never...
Is there something that you or someone on this list can recommend?
I mainly "need" the CD/DVD (system) + USB (config) combination including
shorewall, dhcrelay, openvpn, rsyslog

Thanks again
  Dietmar

2018-01-07 17:41 GMT+01:00 Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...>:

> Bruce,
>
> Yes it was no easy decision, but I finally just had to admit it to myself.
>
> Many thanks to you too. Without your help DL would never have gotten this
> far.
>
> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Bruce Smith <bw...@re...> wrote:
>
>> Heiko,
>>
>> Thank you for all of your hard work over the years!!!
>>
>> I guess it's true that all good things must come to and end.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 6:24 AM, Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...> wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately, after almost 20 years, I have to officially stop
>>> releasing new versions of Devil-Linux. I simply do not have the time
>>> anymore to do this properly. This is in addition to GRSecurity not being
>>> available anymore to the general public, which was the core of our security
>>> features. It has been a blast maintaining this distro and we had a lot of
>>> long-term followers, for which I am very grateful.
>>> All current downloads and the sources will of course stay on the
>>> websites.
>>> If anybody wants to pick up where I left off, please feel free to reach
>>> out so that we can transfer all the responsibilities.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>   Heiko Zuerker
>>>
>>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> ------------------
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>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Dev...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Regards
>   Heiko Zuerker
>
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>

Dietmar,

I have not found an alternative yet for myself either, but have to admit I
haven't looked very hard either.

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 6:18 AM, Dietmar Rieder <die...@gm...>
wrote:

> Hi Heiko,
>
> first of all many many Thanks for all your effort and support !
>
> It's really sad to hear that you have to stop to maintain DL, which we run
> since more than 15 years now on our fw and vpn.
> I hate the idea of having to change our setup, it was one of our most
> reliable and easy to run systems over all these years :-(
> However, times move on and I fully understand that at some point time gets
> an issue.
>
> It seems that we'll have to start looking for an alternative.
> Until now I didn't even bother about alternatives, since there was simply
> no need for such, never...
> Is there something that you or someone on this list can recommend?
> I mainly "need" the CD/DVD (system) + USB (config) combination including
> shorewall, dhcrelay, openvpn, rsyslog
>
> Thanks again
>   Dietmar
>
> 2018-01-07 17:41 GMT+01:00 Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...>:
>
>> Bruce,
>>
>> Yes it was no easy decision, but I finally just had to admit it to myself.
>>
>> Many thanks to you too. Without your help DL would never have gotten this
>> far.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Bruce Smith <bw...@re...> wrote:
>>
>>> Heiko,
>>>
>>> Thank you for all of your hard work over the years!!!
>>>
>>> I guess it's true that all good things must come to and end.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 6:24 AM, Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, after almost 20 years, I have to officially stop
>>>> releasing new versions of Devil-Linux. I simply do not have the time
>>>> anymore to do this properly. This is in addition to GRSecurity not being
>>>> available anymore to the general public, which was the core of our security
>>>> features. It has been a blast maintaining this distro and we had a lot of
>>>> long-term followers, for which I am very grateful.
>>>> All current downloads and the sources will of course stay on the
>>>> websites.
>>>> If anybody wants to pick up where I left off, please feel free to reach
>>>> out so that we can transfer all the responsibilities.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>   Heiko Zuerker
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ------------------
>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Devil-linux-discuss mailing list
>>> Dev...@li...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards
>>   Heiko Zuerker
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> ------------------
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>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
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>>
>>
>
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-- 

Regards
  Heiko Zuerker

After retiring from corporate IT a few years ago, I haven't had a need for
a fancy firewall or VPN.  My wireless router does the job for my home
network.

However, if I did have the need I would probably build my own from a
regular Linux distro.

I'd also look closely at OpenBSD (if they are still active) to use instead
of Linux since they are one of the few distro's I'm aware of that focuses
on security.  Another upside is there aren't as many vulnerabilities for
BSD systems since they're not as popular.  The downside is I'm not that
familiar with BSD.

And of course, there are always the commercial options for corporate
networks.  Cisco ASA, etc.

 - BS


On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...> wrote:

> Dietmar,
>
> I have not found an alternative yet for myself either, but have to admit I
> haven't looked very hard either.
>
> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 6:18 AM, Dietmar Rieder <die...@gm...>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Heiko,
>>
>> first of all many many Thanks for all your effort and support !
>>
>> It's really sad to hear that you have to stop to maintain DL, which we
>> run since more than 15 years now on our fw and vpn.
>> I hate the idea of having to change our setup, it was one of our most
>> reliable and easy to run systems over all these years :-(
>> However, times move on and I fully understand that at some point time
>> gets an issue.
>>
>> It seems that we'll have to start looking for an alternative.
>> Until now I didn't even bother about alternatives, since there was simply
>> no need for such, never...
>> Is there something that you or someone on this list can recommend?
>> I mainly "need" the CD/DVD (system) + USB (config) combination including
>> shorewall, dhcrelay, openvpn, rsyslog
>>
>> Thanks again
>>   Dietmar
>>
>> 2018-01-07 17:41 GMT+01:00 Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...>:
>>
>>> Bruce,
>>>
>>> Yes it was no easy decision, but I finally just had to admit it to
>>> myself.
>>>
>>> Many thanks to you too. Without your help DL would never have gotten
>>> this far.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Bruce Smith <bw...@re...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Heiko,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for all of your hard work over the years!!!
>>>>
>>>> I guess it's true that all good things must come to and end.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 6:24 AM, Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, after almost 20 years, I have to officially stop
>>>>> releasing new versions of Devil-Linux. I simply do not have the time
>>>>> anymore to do this properly. This is in addition to GRSecurity not being
>>>>> available anymore to the general public, which was the core of our security
>>>>> features. It has been a blast maintaining this distro and we had a lot of
>>>>> long-term followers, for which I am very grateful.
>>>>> All current downloads and the sources will of course stay on the
>>>>> websites.
>>>>> If anybody wants to pick up where I left off, please feel free to
>>>>> reach out so that we can transfer all the responsibilities.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>   Heiko Zuerker
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> ------------------
>>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
>>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Devil-linux-discuss mailing list
>>>> Dev...@li...
>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>   Heiko Zuerker
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ------------------
>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Devil-linux-discuss mailing list
>>> Dev...@li...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss
>>>
>>>
>>
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>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Regards
>   Heiko Zuerker
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>

Hi Bruce,

thanks for your suggestion. I was considering to "build" may own distro,
however IT is not to main focus in my job, so time is also an issue for me.
BSD would be good however I'd prefer use the tools that I'm more familiar
with and I don't need to invest to much of my time.
Interestingly, many years ago, we switched from BSD to DL :-)

I'll have a look at AlpineLinux as suggested by Roland, seems to be a good
alternative.

Dietmar

2018-01-08 17:12 GMT+01:00 Bruce Smith <bw...@re...>:

> After retiring from corporate IT a few years ago, I haven't had a need for
> a fancy firewall or VPN.  My wireless router does the job for my home
> network.
>
> However, if I did have the need I would probably build my own from a
> regular Linux distro.
>
> I'd also look closely at OpenBSD (if they are still active) to use instead
> of Linux since they are one of the few distro's I'm aware of that focuses
> on security.  Another upside is there aren't as many vulnerabilities for
> BSD systems since they're not as popular.  The downside is I'm not that
> familiar with BSD.
>
> And of course, there are always the commercial options for corporate
> networks.  Cisco ASA, etc.
>
>  - BS
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...> wrote:
>
>> Dietmar,
>>
>> I have not found an alternative yet for myself either, but have to admit
>> I haven't looked very hard either.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 6:18 AM, Dietmar Rieder <die...@gm...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Heiko,
>>>
>>> first of all many many Thanks for all your effort and support !
>>>
>>> It's really sad to hear that you have to stop to maintain DL, which we
>>> run since more than 15 years now on our fw and vpn.
>>> I hate the idea of having to change our setup, it was one of our most
>>> reliable and easy to run systems over all these years :-(
>>> However, times move on and I fully understand that at some point time
>>> gets an issue.
>>>
>>> It seems that we'll have to start looking for an alternative.
>>> Until now I didn't even bother about alternatives, since there was
>>> simply no need for such, never...
>>> Is there something that you or someone on this list can recommend?
>>> I mainly "need" the CD/DVD (system) + USB (config) combination including
>>> shorewall, dhcrelay, openvpn, rsyslog
>>>
>>> Thanks again
>>>   Dietmar
>>>
>>> 2018-01-07 17:41 GMT+01:00 Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...>:
>>>
>>>> Bruce,
>>>>
>>>> Yes it was no easy decision, but I finally just had to admit it to
>>>> myself.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks to you too. Without your help DL would never have gotten
>>>> this far.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Bruce Smith <bw...@re...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Heiko,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for all of your hard work over the years!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess it's true that all good things must come to and end.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 6:24 AM, Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately, after almost 20 years, I have to officially stop
>>>>>> releasing new versions of Devil-Linux. I simply do not have the time
>>>>>> anymore to do this properly. This is in addition to GRSecurity not being
>>>>>> available anymore to the general public, which was the core of our security
>>>>>> features. It has been a blast maintaining this distro and we had a lot of
>>>>>> long-term followers, for which I am very grateful.
>>>>>> All current downloads and the sources will of course stay on the
>>>>>> websites.
>>>>>> If anybody wants to pick up where I left off, please feel free to
>>>>>> reach out so that we can transfer all the responsibilities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>   Heiko Zuerker
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> ------------------
>>>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
>>>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Devil-linux-discuss mailing list
>>>>> Dev...@li...
>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>   Heiko Zuerker
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> ------------------
>>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
>>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Devil-linux-discuss mailing list
>>>> Dev...@li...
>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
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>>> Dev...@li...
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards
>>   Heiko Zuerker
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> ------------------
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>>
>>
>
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>
>

Hi,

I'm also very sorry to see DL go :-(  But I understand the dilemma. I too 
don't have the time any more to set up my fw from scratch (build own iso, 
etc), I need something that works out of the box (but still allows me to 
customize everything if needed).

I've started to look around for a replacement and found Alpine Linux. It can 
also be run in a stateless mode with configuration on a writeable medium:
https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Installation
I haven't been able to try it out yet, but it looks at least promising.

Thanks to everyone and Heiko especially!

Roland



> Hi Heiko,
> 
> first of all many many Thanks for all your effort and support !
> 
> It's really sad to hear that you have to stop to maintain DL, which we run
> since more than 15 years now on our fw and vpn.
> I hate the idea of having to change our setup, it was one of our most
> reliable and easy to run systems over all these years :-(
> However, times move on and I fully understand that at some point time gets
> an issue.
> 
> It seems that we'll have to start looking for an alternative.
> Until now I didn't even bother about alternatives, since there was simply
> no need for such, never...
> Is there something that you or someone on this list can recommend?
> I mainly "need" the CD/DVD (system) + USB (config) combination including
> shorewall, dhcrelay, openvpn, rsyslog
> 
> Thanks again
>   Dietmar
> 
> 2018-01-07 17:41 GMT+01:00 Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...>:
> > Bruce,
> > 
> > Yes it was no easy decision, but I finally just had to admit it to myself.
> > 
> > Many thanks to you too. Without your help DL would never have gotten this
> > far.
> > 
> > On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Bruce Smith <bw...@re...> wrote:
> >> Heiko,
> >> 
> >> Thank you for all of your hard work over the years!!!
> >> 
> >> I guess it's true that all good things must come to and end.
> >> 
> >> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 6:24 AM, Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...> wrote:
> >>> Unfortunately, after almost 20 years, I have to officially stop
> >>> releasing new versions of Devil-Linux. I simply do not have the time
> >>> anymore to do this properly. This is in addition to GRSecurity not being
> >>> available anymore to the general public, which was the core of our
> >>> security
> >>> features. It has been a blast maintaining this distro and we had a lot
> >>> of
> >>> long-term followers, for which I am very grateful.
> >>> All current downloads and the sources will of course stay on the
> >>> websites.
> >>> If anybody wants to pick up where I left off, please feel free to reach
> >>> out so that we can transfer all the responsibilities.
> >>> 
> >>> --
> >>> 
> >>> Regards
> >>> 
> >>>   Heiko Zuerker
> >> 
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >> ------------------
> >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
> >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Devil-linux-discuss mailing list
> >> Dev...@li...
> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> >   Heiko Zuerker
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > ------------------
> > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
> > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Dev...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss

Roland,

thanks a lot for the hint, AlpineLinux looks very interesting and seems to
be a good alternative to DL.
I'll give it a try...

Dietmar

2018-01-08 19:45 GMT+01:00 Roland Pabel <rp...@gm...>:

> Hi,
>
> I'm also very sorry to see DL go :-(  But I understand the dilemma. I too
> don't have the time any more to set up my fw from scratch (build own iso,
> etc), I need something that works out of the box (but still allows me to
> customize everything if needed).
>
> I've started to look around for a replacement and found Alpine Linux. It
> can
> also be run in a stateless mode with configuration on a writeable medium:
> https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Installation
> I haven't been able to try it out yet, but it looks at least promising.
>
> Thanks to everyone and Heiko especially!
>
> Roland
>
>
>
> > Hi Heiko,
> >
> > first of all many many Thanks for all your effort and support !
> >
> > It's really sad to hear that you have to stop to maintain DL, which we
> run
> > since more than 15 years now on our fw and vpn.
> > I hate the idea of having to change our setup, it was one of our most
> > reliable and easy to run systems over all these years :-(
> > However, times move on and I fully understand that at some point time
> gets
> > an issue.
> >
> > It seems that we'll have to start looking for an alternative.
> > Until now I didn't even bother about alternatives, since there was simply
> > no need for such, never...
> > Is there something that you or someone on this list can recommend?
> > I mainly "need" the CD/DVD (system) + USB (config) combination including
> > shorewall, dhcrelay, openvpn, rsyslog
> >
> > Thanks again
> >   Dietmar
> >
> > 2018-01-07 17:41 GMT+01:00 Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...>:
> > > Bruce,
> > >
> > > Yes it was no easy decision, but I finally just had to admit it to
> myself.
> > >
> > > Many thanks to you too. Without your help DL would never have gotten
> this
> > > far.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Bruce Smith <bw...@re...> wrote:
> > >> Heiko,
> > >>
> > >> Thank you for all of your hard work over the years!!!
> > >>
> > >> I guess it's true that all good things must come to and end.
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 6:24 AM, Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...>
> wrote:
> > >>> Unfortunately, after almost 20 years, I have to officially stop
> > >>> releasing new versions of Devil-Linux. I simply do not have the time
> > >>> anymore to do this properly. This is in addition to GRSecurity not
> being
> > >>> available anymore to the general public, which was the core of our
> > >>> security
> > >>> features. It has been a blast maintaining this distro and we had a
> lot
> > >>> of
> > >>> long-term followers, for which I am very grateful.
> > >>> All current downloads and the sources will of course stay on the
> > >>> websites.
> > >>> If anybody wants to pick up where I left off, please feel free to
> reach
> > >>> out so that we can transfer all the responsibilities.
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards
> > >>>
> > >>>   Heiko Zuerker
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> ------------------
> > >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
> > >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Devil-linux-discuss mailing list
> > >> Dev...@li...
> > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >   Heiko Zuerker
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > ------------------
> > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
> > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
> > > _______________________________________________
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Hi folks,

The Alpine documentation mentions doing customization by using
writable storage, as distinct from
the loopback device.  I confess it has been a long time since I used
Devil, although I will be
installing it up again tonight. I do remember Devil was specifically
designed to allow you to customize
the CD, so you don't need any separate media. To me this is far more
elegant. How much
effort is required to maintain DL? I certainly am not asking to step in now,
but I will with it and may later post updates. I absolutely love the elegance.
I'm now again highly interested in security. Many years ago, I
enhanced a firewall program, and put it on my DL cd.

Yes, Again, Thanks to everyone and Heiko especially!

Chip


On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 10:45 AM, Roland Pabel <rp...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm also very sorry to see DL go :-(  But I understand the dilemma. I too
> don't have the time any more to set up my fw from scratch (build own iso,
> etc), I need something that works out of the box (but still allows me to
> customize everything if needed).
>
> I've started to look around for a replacement and found Alpine Linux. It can
> also be run in a stateless mode with configuration on a writeable medium:
> https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Installation
> I haven't been able to try it out yet, but it looks at least promising.
>
> Thanks to everyone and Heiko especially!
>
> Roland
>
>
>
>> Hi Heiko,
>>
>> first of all many many Thanks for all your effort and support !
>>
>> It's really sad to hear that you have to stop to maintain DL, which we run
>> since more than 15 years now on our fw and vpn.
>> I hate the idea of having to change our setup, it was one of our most
>> reliable and easy to run systems over all these years :-(
>> However, times move on and I fully understand that at some point time gets
>> an issue.
>>
>> It seems that we'll have to start looking for an alternative.
>> Until now I didn't even bother about alternatives, since there was simply
>> no need for such, never...
>> Is there something that you or someone on this list can recommend?
>> I mainly "need" the CD/DVD (system) + USB (config) combination including
>> shorewall, dhcrelay, openvpn, rsyslog
>>
>> Thanks again
>>   Dietmar
>>
>> 2018-01-07 17:41 GMT+01:00 Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...>:
>> > Bruce,
>> >
>> > Yes it was no easy decision, but I finally just had to admit it to myself.
>> >
>> > Many thanks to you too. Without your help DL would never have gotten this
>> > far.
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Bruce Smith <bw...@re...> wrote:
>> >> Heiko,
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for all of your hard work over the years!!!
>> >>
>> >> I guess it's true that all good things must come to and end.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 6:24 AM, Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...> wrote:
>> >>> Unfortunately, after almost 20 years, I have to officially stop
>> >>> releasing new versions of Devil-Linux. I simply do not have the time
>> >>> anymore to do this properly. This is in addition to GRSecurity not being
>> >>> available anymore to the general public, which was the core of our
>> >>> security
>> >>> features. It has been a blast maintaining this distro and we had a lot
>> >>> of
>> >>> long-term followers, for which I am very grateful.
>> >>> All current downloads and the sources will of course stay on the
>> >>> websites.
>> >>> If anybody wants to pick up where I left off, please feel free to reach
>> >>> out so that we can transfer all the responsibilities.
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards
>> >>>
>> >>>   Heiko Zuerker
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Le 07/01/2018 à 14:24, Heiko Zuerker a écrit :
>
> Unfortunately, after almost 20 years, I have to officially stop
> releasing new versions of Devil-Linux. I simply do not have the time
> anymore to do this properly. This is in addition to GRSecurity not
> being available anymore to the general public, which was the core of
> our security features. It has been a blast maintaining this distro and
> we had a lot of long-term followers, for which I am very grateful.
> All current downloads and the sources will of course stay on the websites.
> If anybody wants to pick up where I left off, please feel free to
> reach out so that we can transfer all the responsibilities.
>

Heiko,

Thank you for the work you put in Devil-Linux over the years.

Philippe