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Hi Denys,

The current plan is to clear out the current crop of bugs
<http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=browse&group_id=91231&atid=596416&status=1>
and do another release that supports all the way back to 2.3 and then
start work on a new version that drops at least 2.3 support (maybe
2.4/2.5 as well). At that time I would also like to work on Python 3
support. My plan was work on any/all of the above on the first sprint
day at PyCon 2012 (so March 12). My schedule won't permit me to work
on it before then if I want to be able to afford to go to PyCon.

That said, if you search the list archives, there was some discussion
about someone attempting a Python 3 branch that had some success. I'll
also examine pull requests if someone else wants to do any of that
work.

If someone wanted to pay me to do the work, that could also speed up
the development timeline, since then the work would fall into my work
schedule and not in my when I have time for it schedule.

-Chris

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Ian Bicking <ia...@co...> wrote:
> Oops, sent this with the wrong email...
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Ian Bicking <ia...@ia...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Denys.  I've passed on maintainership of FormEncode, and I'm not really
>> sure if there is a plan for a Py3k version of FormEncode.  Maybe one of the
>> maintainers can chime in?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Denys Matuzenko <in...@br...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ian, hello!
>>> Could you tell me, please, if there any plans for making FormEncode
>>> Python 3k compatible?
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Kind reagrds,
>>> Denys Matuzenko
>>
>>
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Oops, sent this with the wrong email...

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Ian Bicking <ia...@ia...> wrote:

> Hi Denys.  I've passed on maintainership of FormEncode, and I'm not really
> sure if there is a plan for a Py3k version of FormEncode.  Maybe one of the
> maintainers can chime in?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Denys Matuzenko <in...@br...> wrote:
>
>> Ian, hello!
>> Could you tell me, please, if there any plans for making FormEncode
>> Python 3k compatible?
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Kind reagrds,
>> Denys Matuzenko
>>
>
>

The docs say that EmailValidator can throw a badType error, but I think this
is incorrect:

> validators.Email().to_python(1)
 File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/formencode/api.py", line 419, in
to_python
    value = tp(value, state)
  File "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/formencode/validators.py", line
1335, in _to_python
    return value.strip()
AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'strip'

it appears _to_python() incorrectly assumes that the value is a string...

Am 01.09.2011 08:55, schrieb Christoph Zwerschke:
 > Btw, besides/before working on the bugs in the SF tracker we also need
 > to increase the test coverage. The validators module has only 55%.

To be fair, 28% are also covered by doctests. Not sure how much they 
overlap. I think where helpful as examples they should stay in the 
docstrings, but we should convert them to unittests to anyway.

-- Christoph

Short summary: We fixed nearly half of the open bugs,
i.e. got half the way towards releasing 1.2.5. We can
tackle the remaining bugs at the next sprint Oct 15.

-- Christoph

As a reminder, we wanted to have an IRC sprint in #formencode at 
freenode today, with the following goals:

* Work on the SF tracker tasks (44 open)
   at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=91231
* Review the pull requests on bitbucket
* Improve test coverage
* (Maybe) improve Sphinx docs
* Finish bugfix version 1.2.5
   which should be fully backward compatible
   and particularly still work with Py 2.3
* (Maybe) start working on version 1.3
   where we start modernizing the code,
   require Py 2.4 and add Py 3.0 support via 2to3
   (see pull request #3 old repos)

Not sure who can participate today and how far we can get, but I'll 
start working on some open tasks already as I don't know how much time I 
will have later in the day.

-- Christoph

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Chris Lambacher <ch...@ka...> wrote:
> There's a #formencode on freenode?

Now there is :)

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On Thursday, September 1, 2011, David Stanek <ds...@ds...> wrote:

> So we're talking about doing a sprint on Sept 24 and meeting in
#formencode on freenode? If yes I'll start promoting it as well.

Yes to the date.

There's a #formencode on freenode?

-Chris

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On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:55 AM, Christoph Zwerschke <ci...@on...> wrote:

> Am 01.09.2011 03:36 schrieb Chris Lambacher:
> > Okay, so promotion, promotion, promotion right?
>
> I have just announced Sep 24 on the TurboGears list.
>
> Btw, besides/before working on the bugs in the SF tracker we also need
> to increase the test coverage. The validators module has only 55%.
>
>
That really saddens me.

So we're talking about doing a sprint on Sept 24 and meeting in #formencode
on freenode? If yes I'll start promoting it as well.

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Am 01.09.2011 03:36 schrieb Chris Lambacher:
> Okay, so promotion, promotion, promotion right?

I have just announced Sep 24 on the TurboGears list.

Btw, besides/before working on the bugs in the SF tracker we also need 
to increase the test coverage. The validators module has only 55%.

-- Christoph

Okay, so promotion, promotion, promotion right?

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:17 PM, David Stanek <ds...@ds...> wrote:
> That sounds good to me.
>
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Christoph Zwerschke <ci...@on...> wrote:
>>
>> Am 31.08.2011 20:52 schrieb Chris Lambacher:
>> > My project releases just got pushed back due to a delay in getting
>> > hardware so my schedule just changed and I will be occupied the
>> > weekends of Sept 24, Oct 1 and Oct 8.  The weekend of Sept 24 is
>> > likely to be the least busy of those for me if it needs to be one of
>> > those weekends.
>>
>> So let's try do some work on Sep 24 and see how far we get. If need be,
>> we can add another sprint Oct 15.
>>
>> -- Christoph
>>
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That sounds good to me.

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Christoph Zwerschke <ci...@on...> wrote:

> Am 31.08.2011 20:52 schrieb Chris Lambacher:
> > My project releases just got pushed back due to a delay in getting
> > hardware so my schedule just changed and I will be occupied the
> > weekends of Sept 24, Oct 1 and Oct 8.  The weekend of Sept 24 is
> > likely to be the least busy of those for me if it needs to be one of
> > those weekends.
>
> So let's try do some work on Sep 24 and see how far we get. If need be,
> we can add another sprint Oct 15.
>
> -- Christoph
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Am 31.08.2011 20:52 schrieb Chris Lambacher:
> My project releases just got pushed back due to a delay in getting
> hardware so my schedule just changed and I will be occupied the
> weekends of Sept 24, Oct 1 and Oct 8.  The weekend of Sept 24 is
> likely to be the least busy of those for me if it needs to be one of
> those weekends.

So let's try do some work on Sep 24 and see how far we get. If need be, 
we can add another sprint Oct 15.

-- Christoph

Hi,

My project releases just got pushed back due to a delay in getting
hardware so my schedule just changed and I will be occupied the
weekends of Sept 24, Oct 1 and Oct 8.  The weekend of Sept 24 is
likely to be the least busy of those for me if it needs to be one of
those weekends. My other weekends look to be fairly free at this
point.

-Chris

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Chris Lambacher <ch...@ka...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The following weekend, Oct 8, would also be okay for me, but I'm in
> Canada and that is our Thanksgiving weekend so I am likely to have
> some responsibilities around that (we are hosting this year).
>
> -Chris
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 6:22 AM, Christoph Zwerschke <ci...@on...> wrote:
>> Am 30.08.2011 04:59 schrieb Chris Lambacher:
>>>
>>>  - Bugs:
>>>       - fix the critical ones so that we can do a 1.2.5 release and
>>> start on a 1.3.x series that can break compatibility with Python 2.3
>>> (see https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=27762170
>>> and related thread).
>>>       - Close enough that we can make a the move to the bitbucket
>>> issue tracker without to much effort to convert the existing bugs.
>>
>> That was what I had in mind.
>>
>>>  - Documentation:
>>>      - fill in the pieces that went missing like the validators page
>>> (is this from a partial conversion to Sphinx?)
>>
>> See Ian Wilson's patch which I have already committed.
>>
>>>      - move doc hosting to Read the Docs (we'll maintain
>>> formencode.org as the url)
>>
>> The main problem is getting autodocs to work on RTD. It seems the project
>> user needs to be whitelisted for that. I'll try to contact the RTD people
>> via IRC to solve this.
>>
>>> Discussion so far has revolved around it being over a weekend. I am
>>> pretty booked up through the end of September but the weekend of Oct 1
>>> looks like it will work for me. How does that suit other people?
>>
>> Unfortunately that's not possible for me. The weekends before or after would
>> be better.
>>
>> -- Christoph
>>
>
>
>
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Funny... I'm not sure if there's a good solution, so I just set up
formencode.org to redirect to www.formencode.org


On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Christoph Zwerschke <ci...@on...> wrote:

> Am 31.08.2011 19:47 schrieb Ian Bicking:
> > Hmm, I don't think my DNS provider supports that, but I suspect that is
> > not the issue in this case, as the request gets to readthedocs.org
> > <http://readthedocs.org>, it's the server that's giving the 404.
>
> The webserver at readthedocs.org needs the canonical name
> (formencode.readthedocs.org) for resolving the project. This works only
> with a CNAME entry or probably with DNAME as well.
>
> -- Christoph
>
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Am 31.08.2011 19:47 schrieb Ian Bicking:
> Hmm, I don't think my DNS provider supports that, but I suspect that is
> not the issue in this case, as the request gets to readthedocs.org
> <http://readthedocs.org>, it's the server that's giving the 404.

The webserver at readthedocs.org needs the canonical name 
(formencode.readthedocs.org) for resolving the project. This works only 
with a CNAME entry or probably with DNAME as well.

-- Christoph

Hmm, I don't think my DNS provider supports that, but I suspect that is not
the issue in this case, as the request gets to readthedocs.org, it's the
server that's giving the 404.

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Christoph Zwerschke <ci...@on...>wrote:

> Am 31.08.2011 18:31 schrieb Ian Bicking:
> > DNAME?  What's that?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNAME_record#DNAME_record
>
>

Am 31.08.2011 18:31 schrieb Ian Bicking:
> DNAME?  What's that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNAME_record#DNAME_record

DNAME?  What's that?

The IP address is set correctly in the registrar/DNS, but at least my
personal DNS still seems to be pointing to the old server.
www.formencode.org seems to work fine... editing /etc/hosts gets me the
404.  Probably this is some configuration on readthedocs.org to map domain
names to projects?

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:08 AM, Christoph Zwerschke <ci...@on...> wrote:

> Am 31.08.2011 00:51 schrieb Ian Bicking:
> > www.formencode.org <http://www.formencode.org> is CNAME to
> > formencode.readthedocs.org <http://formencode.readthedocs.org>; I
> > couldn't CNAME formencode.org <http://formencode.org> itself, so I just
> > assigned it the same IP, but that might not be as stable.
>
> formencode.org does not work for me, I get a 404 error.
> Maybe DNAME instead of CNAME will do?
>
> -- Christoph
>
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Hi,

For formencode.org we should either have an A record pointing at the
readthedocs.org IP or we should redirect to www.formencode.org on some
cheap commodity hosting (I already have hosting that can manage as
many domains as I like so I can just add to that if we need to).

-Chris

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 6:08 AM, Christoph Zwerschke <ci...@on...> wrote:
> Am 31.08.2011 00:51 schrieb Ian Bicking:
>> www.formencode.org <http://www.formencode.org> is CNAME to
>> formencode.readthedocs.org <http://formencode.readthedocs.org>; I
>> couldn't CNAME formencode.org <http://formencode.org> itself, so I just
>> assigned it the same IP, but that might not be as stable.
>
> formencode.org does not work for me, I get a 404 error.
> Maybe DNAME instead of CNAME will do?
>
> -- Christoph
>
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Am 31.08.2011 00:51 schrieb Ian Bicking:
> www.formencode.org <http://www.formencode.org> is CNAME to
> formencode.readthedocs.org <http://formencode.readthedocs.org>; I
> couldn't CNAME formencode.org <http://formencode.org> itself, so I just
> assigned it the same IP, but that might not be as stable.

formencode.org does not work for me, I get a 404 error.
Maybe DNAME instead of CNAME will do?

-- Christoph

www.formencode.org is CNAME to formencode.readthedocs.org; I couldn't CNAME
formencode.org itself, so I just assigned it the same IP, but that might not
be as stable.

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Christoph Zwerschke <ci...@on...> wrote:

> Am 29.08.2011 20:39 schrieb Ian Bicking:
> > (a) Let's move to readthedocs.org <http://readthedocs.org>.
>
> Completed now (the autodoc issue has been solved):
>
> http://formencode.readthedocs.org
>
> You can change the CNAME entry for formencode.org to the above domain.
>
> -- Christoph
>
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Am 29.08.2011 20:39 schrieb Ian Bicking:
> (a) Let's move to readthedocs.org <http://readthedocs.org>.

Completed now (the autodoc issue has been solved):

http://formencode.readthedocs.org

You can change the CNAME entry for formencode.org to the above domain.

-- Christoph

Hi,

The following weekend, Oct 8, would also be okay for me, but I'm in
Canada and that is our Thanksgiving weekend so I am likely to have
some responsibilities around that (we are hosting this year).

-Chris

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 6:22 AM, Christoph Zwerschke <ci...@on...> wrote:
> Am 30.08.2011 04:59 schrieb Chris Lambacher:
>>
>>  - Bugs:
>>       - fix the critical ones so that we can do a 1.2.5 release and
>> start on a 1.3.x series that can break compatibility with Python 2.3
>> (see https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=27762170
>> and related thread).
>>       - Close enough that we can make a the move to the bitbucket
>> issue tracker without to much effort to convert the existing bugs.
>
> That was what I had in mind.
>
>>  - Documentation:
>>      - fill in the pieces that went missing like the validators page
>> (is this from a partial conversion to Sphinx?)
>
> See Ian Wilson's patch which I have already committed.
>
>>      - move doc hosting to Read the Docs (we'll maintain
>> formencode.org as the url)
>
> The main problem is getting autodocs to work on RTD. It seems the project
> user needs to be whitelisted for that. I'll try to contact the RTD people
> via IRC to solve this.
>
>> Discussion so far has revolved around it being over a weekend. I am
>> pretty booked up through the end of September but the weekend of Oct 1
>> looks like it will work for me. How does that suit other people?
>
> Unfortunately that's not possible for me. The weekends before or after would
> be better.
>
> -- Christoph
>



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Am 30.08.2011 04:59 schrieb Chris Lambacher:
>   - Bugs:
>        - fix the critical ones so that we can do a 1.2.5 release and
> start on a 1.3.x series that can break compatibility with Python 2.3
> (see https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=27762170
> and related thread).
>        - Close enough that we can make a the move to the bitbucket
> issue tracker without to much effort to convert the existing bugs.

That was what I had in mind.

>   - Documentation:
>       - fill in the pieces that went missing like the validators page
> (is this from a partial conversion to Sphinx?)

See Ian Wilson's patch which I have already committed.

>       - move doc hosting to Read the Docs (we'll maintain
> formencode.org as the url)

The main problem is getting autodocs to work on RTD. It seems the 
project user needs to be whitelisted for that. I'll try to contact the 
RTD people via IRC to solve this.

> Discussion so far has revolved around it being over a weekend. I am
> pretty booked up through the end of September but the weekend of Oct 1
> looks like it will work for me. How does that suit other people?

Unfortunately that's not possible for me. The weekends before or after 
would be better.

-- Christoph