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Hi,

I am pulling this out of the docs thread where it was kind of buried.
The suggestion was made to have a sprint coordinated via IRC some
upcoming weekend. Some goals would be:

 - Bugs:
      - fix the critical ones so that we can do a 1.2.5 release and
start on a 1.3.x series that can break compatibility with Python 2.3
(see https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=27762170
and related thread).
      - Close enough that we can make a the move to the bitbucket
issue tracker without to much effort to convert the existing bugs.

 - Documentation:
     - fill in the pieces that went missing like the validators page
(is this from a partial conversion to Sphinx?)
     - move doc hosting to Read the Docs (we'll maintain
formencode.org as the url)


Discussion so far has revolved around it being over a weekend. I am
pretty booked up through the end of September but the weekend of Oct 1
looks like it will work for me. How does that suit other people?

-Chris

-- 
Christopher Lambacher
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I must have forgotten to hit submit when changing your permissions.  You and
Chris have admin over there, and everyone has PyPI access now.

There's a #readthedocs IRC channel that might be a good way to figure out
bitbucket integration (unless y'all want to move to github, which would also
be totally okay).  Maybe it's possible to trigger a rebuild with the POST
notification bitbucket can put out?  I can also CNAME formencode.org to
readthedocs.org and it's supposed to pick it up... but I haven't actually
done it myself, someone else has always set it up, I just go in and setup
the CNAME afterwards, so I'm not sure what has to be configured for that.


On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Christoph Zwerschke <ci...@on...> wrote:

> Am 29.08.2011 20:39 schrieb Ian Bicking:
>
>> (b) I've given Christoph admin permission on FormEncode (he had normal
>>
>> permission before?) and David Stanek admin.  Wasn't able to guess Chris
>> Lambacher's username ;)
>>
>
> I still have only normal developer access, but that's sufficient for
> closing tickets. Chris is lambacck.
>
> You also should give us access to PyPI if you haven't. The PyPI page still
> mentions the SVN repo instead of Mercurial.
>
> -- Christoph
>

Am 29.08.2011 20:39 schrieb Ian Bicking:
> (b) I've given Christoph admin permission on FormEncode (he had normal
> permission before?) and David Stanek admin.  Wasn't able to guess Chris
> Lambacher's username ;)

I still have only normal developer access, but that's sufficient for 
closing tickets. Chris is lambacck.

You also should give us access to PyPI if you haven't. The PyPI page 
still mentions the SVN repo instead of Mercurial.

-- Christoph

Am 29.08.2011 22:05 schrieb Ian Wilson:
 > I would also want to participate in some sort of sprint.
 >
 > Also with regards to documentation, I think pypi can host docs too.

Yes, that would be an alternative. RTD seems to be more comfortable, 
though since it builds directly from repos, you don't need to upload a 
zip file. Are there any other pros/cons of PyPI vs. RTD? Maybe upload on 
both in case one site is down, but then they can get out of sync and 
people will always wonder which is the authorative doc version.

-- Christoph

Am 29.08.2011 20:39 schrieb Ian Bicking:
 > (a) Let's move to readthedocs.org <http://readthedocs.org>.

Just tried to build the docs with my user account, works nicely.
RTD even created a generic URL without my user name:

http://formencode.readthedocs.org

We could redirect formencode.org to that address now.

But how can now anybody else beside me edit the RTD settings for 
formencode (Repo address etc.) or trigger a manual built? Is the above 
URL now forever linked to the project in my user account? It would be 
better to have the docs created from a generic user account where two or 
more people have access.

 > Weird about Pyramid, I filed a bug:
 > https://github.com/rtfd/readthedocs.org/issues/98

Strange, it works for me. Has it already been fixed?

 > It would host all the docs.  Examples that use it are
 > http://www.pip-installer.org/en/latest/index.html or
 > http://webtest.pythonpaste.org/en/latest/index.html – it handles
 > generating and updating docs automatically.

Does the auto update also work with bitbucket? I saw only gitbub 
mentioned there.

-- Christoph

Weird about Pyramid, I filed a bug:
https://github.com/rtfd/readthedocs.org/issues/98

It would host all the docs.  Examples that use it are
http://www.pip-installer.org/en/latest/index.html or
http://webtest.pythonpaste.org/en/latest/index.html – it handles generating
and updating docs automatically.

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Ian Wilson <ven...@gm...>wrote:

> I would also want to participate in some sort of sprint.
>
> Also with regards to documentation, I think pypi can host docs too.
>
> http://packages.python.org/an_example_pypi_project/buildanduploadsphinx.html
>
> Is readthedocs.org meant to supplement existing documentation hosting or
> to be the end all of documentation hosting ?  I haven't really heard of it
> and when I search for pyramid I get a 500 error.
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Ian Bicking <ia...@co...> wrote:
>
>> (a) Let's move to readthedocs.org.
>> (b) I've given Christoph admin permission on FormEncode (he had normal
>> permission before?) and David Stanek admin.  Wasn't able to guess Chris
>> Lambacher's username ;)
>>
>>
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I would also want to participate in some sort of sprint.

Also with regards to documentation, I think pypi can host docs too.
http://packages.python.org/an_example_pypi_project/buildanduploadsphinx.html

Is readthedocs.org meant to supplement existing documentation hosting or to
be the end all of documentation hosting ?  I haven't really heard of it and
when I search for pyramid I get a 500 error.

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Ian Bicking <ia...@co...> wrote:

> (a) Let's move to readthedocs.org.
> (b) I've given Christoph admin permission on FormEncode (he had normal
> permission before?) and David Stanek admin.  Wasn't able to guess Chris
> Lambacher's username ;)
>
>
>
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(a) Let's move to readthedocs.org.
(b) I've given Christoph admin permission on FormEncode (he had normal
permission before?) and David Stanek admin.  Wasn't able to guess Chris
Lambacher's username ;)

Am 28.08.2011 17:29 schrieb David Stanek:
> I think that this is a great idea. Maybe a weekend sprint?

That would be great. The next 2 weekends I'm already booked out, though.

-- Christoph

On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Christoph Zwerschke <ci...@on...> wrote:

> Am 27.08.2011 23:04 schrieb Chris Lambacher:
>
> > Speaking of access, David and I still don't have access to the
> > sourceforge bug tracker. I was at one point going to start going
> > through all the still open bugs and see what we needed to do to be
> > able to close them.
> >
> > I think we had high level plans to move the bugs to bitbucket.org but
> > we can't do that until we see what is still valid in the old tracker.
>
> Right, there are 38 bugs, 6 feature requests and 2 patches open on SF.
> Maybe let's have an IRC sprint for working on these?
>

I think that this is a great idea. Maybe a weekend sprint?

-- 
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On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Chris Lambacher <ch...@ka...>wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Christoph Zwerschke <ci...@on...<https://mail.google.com/a/dstanek.com/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to...@on...>>
> wrote:
> > Right, there are 38 bugs, 6 feature requests and 2 patches open on SF.
> Maybe
> > let's have an IRC sprint for working on these?
> Some of the open bugs are dups or already fixed. But I have not been
> able to close them because I don't have access.
>
> Either Ian or Philip Jenvey can admin the Sourceforge site.
>
> >
> > And also speaking of access, who has access to formencode.org and can
> > rebuild the sphinx docs there when something has changed?
>
> I have no idea who has access to that. I think we'll need some
> intervention from Ian on that one.
>
>
Ian mentioned giving me SSH access to the host so I'll pursue that offline.
Once I can get in there I'll have the docs updated.


-- 
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On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Christoph Zwerschke <ci...@on...> wrote:
> Right, there are 38 bugs, 6 feature requests and 2 patches open on SF. Maybe
> let's have an IRC sprint for working on these?
Some of the open bugs are dups or already fixed. But I have not been
able to close them because I don't have access.

Either Ian or Philip Jenvey can admin the Sourceforge site.

>
> And also speaking of access, who has access to formencode.org and can
> rebuild the sphinx docs there when something has changed?

I have no idea who has access to that. I think we'll need some
intervention from Ian on that one.

-Chris

-- 
Christopher Lambacher
ch...@ka...

Am 27.08.2011 16:27 schrieb Christoph Zwerschke:
 > There are already 2 changesets which need to be applied to the
 > official one,

Ok, I can now push to the official repo and already pushed the 2 missing 
changesets (the last 2 were mistakes and needn't be pushed).

-- Christoph

Am 27.08.2011 23:04 schrieb Chris Lambacher:
 > Speaking of access, David and I still don't have access to the
 > sourceforge bug tracker. I was at one point going to start going
 > through all the still open bugs and see what we needed to do to be
 > able to close them.
 >
 > I think we had high level plans to move the bugs to bitbucket.org but
 > we can't do that until we see what is still valid in the old tracker.

Right, there are 38 bugs, 6 feature requests and 2 patches open on SF. 
Maybe let's have an IRC sprint for working on these?

And also speaking of access, who has access to formencode.org and can 
rebuild the sphinx docs there when something has changed?

-- Christoph

Am 27.08.2011 23:37 schrieb David Stanek:
> Right, but I was hoping to be able to see that without being an admin.
> That way I could add everyone to the new repo. Do you happen to know who
> has write access to Ian's repo?

I have, but don't know who else has. Seems Ian needs to give you admin 
rights or transfer the access rights over to the new repo himself.

-- Christoph

On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Christoph Zwerschke <ci...@on...> wrote:

> Am 27.08.2011 18:25 schrieb David Stanek:
>
>  Where can I find out what users have push access?
>>
>
> When you're owner or admin of the repo,
> Bitbucket should show a tab "Admin".
>


Right, but I was hoping to be able to see that without being an admin. That
way I could add everyone to the new repo. Do you happen to know who has
write access to Ian's repo?

-- 
David
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www: http://dstanek.com

Hi,

Speaking of access, David and I still don't have access to the
sourceforge bug tracker. I was at one point going to start going
through all the still open bugs and see what we needed to do to be
able to close them.

I think we had high level plans to move the bugs to bitbucket.org but
we can't do that until we see what is still valid in the old tracker.

-Chris


On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Christoph Zwerschke <ci...@on...> wrote:
> Am 27.08.2011 18:25 schrieb David Stanek:
>> Where can I find out what users have push access?
>
> When you're owner or admin of the repo,
> Bitbucket should show a tab "Admin".
>
> -- Christoph
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Am 27.08.2011 18:25 schrieb David Stanek:
> Where can I find out what users have push access?

When you're owner or admin of the repo,
Bitbucket should show a tab "Admin".

-- Christoph

On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Christoph Zwerschke <ci...@on...>wrote:
>
>
> Even better, can somebody move the push access rights from
> ian/formencode to the new formencode/official repository, so people like
> me can continue to help with maintenance and don't accidentally push to
> the wrong repository? There are already 2 changesets which need to be
> applied to the official one, and there are 2 older pull requests which
> should be reviewed.
>
>
Where can I find out what users have push access?


-- 
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Ian's patch looks good to me, can somebody pull it and update the Sphinx 
docs on the server?

Even better, can somebody move the push access rights from 
ian/formencode to the new formencode/official repository, so people like 
me can continue to help with maintenance and don't accidentally push to 
the wrong repository? There are already 2 changesets which need to be 
applied to the official one, and there are 2 older pull requests which 
should be reviewed.

-- Christoph

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Ian Wilson <ven...@gm...>wrote:

> Hello magical new maintainer people,
>
> What is the story with the docs on formencode.org?  Are these the current
> docs? How can we get the validator docs working?  Can I help with that ?  I
> go to look at them and you really have to dig around to get to them and then
> they are just plain text.
>
> Specifically this:
>
> http://formencode.org/Validator.html#available-validators
>
> Used to be linked to something like this:
>
> http://formencode.org/module-formencode.validators-index.html
>

Unless someone knows off the top of their head I can take a look tonight. At
a quick glance it looks like either the section is missing or the fragment
is incorrect.


> It would nice to just re-roll all this to work with sphinx but really I'd
> be cool with just having that link work.
>
>
To my knowledge they are actually built with sphinx. Are you suggesting that
we use it in a different way?


 --
David
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Hello magical new maintainer people,

What is the story with the docs on formencode.org?  Are these the current
docs? How can we get the validator docs working?  Can I help with that ?  I
go to look at them and you really have to dig around to get to them and then
they are just plain text.

Specifically this:

http://formencode.org/Validator.html#available-validators

Used to be linked to something like this:

http://formencode.org/module-formencode.validators-index.html

It would nice to just re-roll all this to work with sphinx but really I'd be
cool with just having that link work.

Thanks.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Ian Bicking <ia...@co...> wrote:
>
>
> Daniel Stanek is taking up primarily maintainership, and Chris Lambacher
> has also offered to comaintain.  Thanks guys!
>
>
So close :-)


-- 
David
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www: http://dstanek.com

Hi everyone!

As you might know, I've been trying to look for new maintainers for a lot of
my projects (Paste or PasteScript anyone?).  I found some new maintainers a
while ago for FormEncode, but we've been a bit pokey formalizing it.  But:
let it be formalized!  Especially since there's some more activity around
the project lately.

Daniel Stanek is taking up primarily maintainership, and Chris Lambacher has
also offered to comaintain.  Thanks guys!

There's a new group repository,
https://bitbucket.org/formencode/official-formencode -- though it looks like
it needs to pick up some stuff still.  I'm not exactly sure how to manage
that change on BitBucket (i.e., how to get pulls and whatnot directed at
this new repo).

Cheers,
  Ian

Am 08.07.2011 17:00 schrieb Chris Lambacher:
>> If we drop it, I am willing to go through the code and simplify it
>> based on Py 2.4 (use decorators etc.)
 >
 > You have something specific in mind here?

For example, the following code:

     def _repr_vars(dictNames):
         names = [n for n in dictNames
                  if not n.startswith('_') and n != 'declarative_count']
         names.sort()
         return names
     _repr_vars = staticmethod(_repr_vars)

could be written in Py 2.4 as:

     @staticmethod
     def _repr_vars(dictNames):
         return sorted(n for n in dictNames
             if not n.startswith('_') and n != 'declarative_count')

Things like that.

-- Christoph