Re: [Ogoglio-developers] Sketchup (1) - Avatars (2) - Spatial sound (3)

Sure - I admit that I was playing a little bit the role of the "devil's adv=
ocate"

For the success of Ogoglio on the marketplace (web - users), the Avatars sy=
stem seems to be one of major big piece to make happen -- and yes they need=
 to get clothes, shoes, .. what I read will be happening.

At the difference of other aspects of the Ogoglio platform, avatars are not=
 described (yet?) in any documentation - one just learns that they are BVH-=
based for animation.
Looking at the files, typical Ogoglio avatars have currently BHV's (for var=
ious types of animations), an OBJ for the body (and a SMAP), a source blend=
er file and a number of JPEGs each containing all textures plugged onto the=
 various areas of the avatar. For avatars with editable parts (like Mike) t=
here's several OBJ's and blender sources, as well as several MORPH files.

Today with Blender, (QA)Vimator, DAZ, BVHacker, Art-of-Illusion,... it is p=
ossible to play and convert with OBJ's or/and BVH's ... but what are the re=
quirements in Ogoglio for matching the BVH with the OBJ? What are the possi=
ble Ogoglio constraints to make the skeleton fit into the mesh ? Can we use=
d just standard recommendations like explained in the Blender forums and si=
milar ?

=C2=A0Please could you say a few words about this ?

Thank you,
-michel
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> Message du 02/02/08 22:04
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> Objet : Re: [Ogoglio-developers] Sketchup (1) - Avatars (2) - Spatial sou=
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> On Feb 1, 2008 1:24 PM, Michel DENIS  wrote:
> >  Suppose that a company would like to build a front-end which could use=
 the
> > same avatar system for accessing both Ogoglio spaces and SL servers (le=
gacy
> ...
> >  Is it feasible ?
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> No.  SL's client is huge (almost 200MB on disk).  It's size and
> complexity make it unfit for web use and, frankly, it has proven to be
> quite unusable for the majority of people who try it.
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> >  Does it makes sense ?
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> No.  SL's avatars are designed to be used in the fat client world
> where it's ok to render a couple of frames per minute and to take 10
> minutes to download a small crowd.
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> They have a fur system in there!
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> > Are there any alternatives, like .. a similar capability to come as par=
t of
> > the core Ogoglio development, or alternatively some other open source t=
ools
> > which could be used ?
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> As with all open source projects, features arrive when someone steps
> up and builds them.  Transmutable is going to contribute a attachment
> and clothing system designed for web users, not virtual world
> enthusiasts.
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> In general, I encourage everyone to look beyond the relatively tiny
> population of Second Life or WoW and towards the massive user
> communities on the web.  Why are the avatar systems like WeeWorld,
> Zwinky, and Gizmoz successful or failing?  Why is Habbo so huge?
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> Those are the interesting questions, not whether we can bring fur and
> bling to Ogoglio.
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> - Trevor
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